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Roy, I have a question for you...
A ways back you posted a photo of John Key in an old issue of the Dominion Post? Do you still have it floating around?
Great thread Lynic us mere mortals can ask one of the greatest minds in New Zealand a question... I sense world peace coming soon.
*edited 06 Jan 2013 15:18
The ol' thirty seconds to respond to a new topic. Let the flaming begin!
Crikey I don't know, did it have special significance?
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What do you think of these boards Roy?
I lost the nose off my 6'0 barron hog and have just reshaped it as a 5'3 diamond nose like th ones pictured
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Those are people who die die. They were all my friends, and they died.
wont turn it into a TOMO bottom shape and rocker tho Nelly 
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Originally posted by: Nell-E
What do you think of these boards Roy?
I lost the nose off my 6'0 barron hog and have just reshaped it as a 5'3 diamond nose like th ones pictured
I bet that you do well on them, possibly better aerodynamics.
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Originally posted by: trailertrash
wont turn it into a TOMO bottom shape and rocker tho Nelly
no and its about 2 inches wider... just thought "look" better than rounding the nose like a g.ay mini mal type thing.....
you think i dont know about bottom curve,
you think i dont care??
are you talking to me white trash..... well.... are ya??
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Those are people who die die. They were all my friends, and they died.
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
Originally posted by: trailertrash
I dont see anyone else around so you must be talking to me
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Those are people who die die. They were all my friends, and they died.
nelly deniro, don't surf his local, he will go all 'cape fear' on ya
Great b.c thanks for bringing a positive vibe down . good funk try douchebag. . jeszzs..
Killed it all by himself . . wow. . like
far out. . fuk me ..
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no rob. you killed it. bc only ever puts an interesting spin on things, unlike a handgrab 360.
i have a question for roy. why so long?
Are you asking about surfboard length Dungs?
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Originally posted by: Roy_Stuart
Crikey I don't know, did it have special significance?
Think Roy, think!
Originally posted by: Roy_Stuart
Are you asking about surfboard length Dungs?
yip. when does too much length start to become an inefficiency?
Originally posted by: DungaOriginally posted by: Roy_Stuart
Are you asking about surfboard length Dungs?
yip. when does too much length start to become an inefficiency?
That's a leading question because it presupposes that there's too much length.
What you appear to be doing is not asking why I use so much length but rather suggesting that I am using too much length.
After riding short boards for 24 years and long boards for 15 years it is clear that It's more a case of 'when does lack of length lead to inefficiency?'... longer boards have a much wider range of conditions in which they work.
Of course it depends also on what the goal is, so it's relative in that regard.
Anyway I think that a well designed 12 footer is a universal length, balanced between long and short.
Another point is that it does depend on overall shape as well as length.
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Originally posted by: lynicOriginally posted by: Roy_Stuart
Crikey I don't know, did it have special significance?
Think Roy, think!
I'm not wasting much thought on this one so if there's a point to it then spit it out please.
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*edited 08 Jan 2013 19:30
the boards on the way out so why not have a play in the shed
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Those are people who die die. They were all my friends, and they died.
Originally posted by: Roy_Stuart
That's a leading question because it presupposes that there's too much length.
What you appear to be doing is not asking why I use so much length but rather suggesting that I am using too much length.
unlike yourself roy i dont have the many years of experience you do and have only been in the water for the last 15 years. in no way is my earlier question a dig at you.
Originally posted by: Roy_Stuart
After riding short boards for 24 years and long boards for 15 years it is clear that It's more a case of 'when does lack of length lead to inefficiency?'... longer boards have a much wider range of conditions in which they work.
what do you consider 'inefficiency' to be?
Originally posted by: Roy_Stuart
Of course it depends also on what the goal is, so it's relative in that regard.
Anyway I think that a well designed 12 footer is a universal length, balanced between long and short.
Another point is that it does depend on overall shape as well as length.
i agree with most of what you say here. but where it differs comes down to the old saying 'different strokes for different folks'.
just remember, i have an olo, i enjoy riding the olo and often recommend others to get themselves one.
how she ride nell-e? any discernible difference?
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Originally posted by: DungaOriginally posted by: Roy_Stuart
That's a leading question because it presupposes that there's too much length.
What you appear to be doing is not asking why I use so much length but rather suggesting that I am using too much length.
unlike yourself roy i dont have the many years of experience you do and have only been in the water for the last 15 years. in no way is my earlier question a dig at you.
Fifteeen years is a long time, but perhaps you don't have as much experience with long boards as I do.
I realise that you weren't having a 'dig' but probably without realising it you wrote a leading question and I had to point that out before answering.
what do you consider 'inefficiency' to be?
That depends upon the design goal, but if the board can't catch or make the waves then it's inefficient in that situation.
just remember, i have an olo, i enjoy riding the olo and often recommend others to get themselves one.
That's nice
but it's a short board and your question was about longer boards.
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haha, i was asking a leading question and im still waiting for an answer.
realistically, what im asking is to what length would you consider to be inefficient for a 2-4ft point break for your style of surfing?
*edited 09 Jan 2013 17:14
I'd rather think about what's efficient for the conditions and your body size, for someone wanting to go for a longer board.
In that case this one would do nicely, although one could go longer or shorter.
11 feet by 23 inches wide by 1.75" thick at about 18 to 20 pounds.
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*edited 10 Jan 2013 14:59
what would you recommend for a 80 kilo person surfing a rivermouth with a 3m swell?
im about 5kg lighter than that (minus the xmas weight that is) so i guess about a foot longer, an inch wider and a 1/8" thicker...
i think one of roys boards would of been perfect for me yesterday afternoon. too much wind to get down the face 
Actually body size isn't critical like it is with shortboards. I rode the same Ghost 12 at 75 kg and am now 83 kg.
So, there's a big range of functional lengths, and widths, but if wanting to go longer I'd go 10 to 12 feet long depending on the shape. Volume wise for longer boards the same number of litres as one's body weight in kg works well, the standard Ghost 12 is in the 70 to 80 litre range. Again it isn't critical.
Apologies for being vague.
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Originally posted by: Drgl33t
i think one of roys boards would of been perfect for me yesterday afternoon. too much wind to get down the face
Yep.
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Originally posted by: Drgl33t
i think one of roys boards would of been perfect for me yesterday afternoon. too much wind to get down the face
I thought it might have been a bit strong. What river mouth champ?
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this one.....but at size
also think roys boards would go great at the right point i was at yesterday that is a great wave when big just extremely difficult to get onto the peak when its double o
*edited 10 Jan 2013 15:37
Originally posted by: Drgl33t
i think one of roys boards would of been perfect for me yesterday afternoon. too much wind to get down the face
Whats the avatar like today DRG, Is it handling the winds
The wind dropped here last night, fun waves in the NP. Must have been pretty good before dark in the South. PTA might have been OK too
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Nuttin beta than sinking your teeth into a fat juicy rump
*edited 10 Jan 2013 15:40
its crap
yeah was too windy for the afternoon lucky on dusk the tide was still low enough to get a quick sesh. i reckon pta would of been off the hook last night
you dont need an olo. look on trademe for an old dunger of a single fin. cheap as chips as it seems most cats are willing to throw em away for a cool $200. still to pick up one from the akl that cost me $27. needs a few repairs but i'll be runnin with another dungers in the water. yeeewwwwww!!!!
Originally posted by: Drgl33t
this one.....but at size
Yeah not the best spot when it gets big. A bit like Ruapuke. Great up to a certain size.
I thought you Might have bee a little further east.
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Originally posted by: Dunga
you dont need an olo. look on trademe for an old dunger of a single fin. cheap as chips as it seems most cats are willing to throw em away for a cool $200. still to pick up one from the akl that cost me $27. needs a few repairs but i'll be runnin with another dungers in the water. yeeewwwwww!!!!
Realise that they are useless in comparison, as are the 'modern' versions.
I roast them all the time, they are rubbish.
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cause yours are faster?
Originally posted by: Roy_StuartOriginally posted by: Dunga
you dont need an olo. look on trademe for an old dunger of a single fin. cheap as chips as it seems most cats are willing to throw em away for a cool $200. still to pick up one from the akl that cost me $27. needs a few repairs but i'll be runnin with another dungers in the water. yeeewwwwww!!!!
Realise that they are useless in comparison, as are the 'modern' versions.
I roast them all the time, they are rubbish.
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So who's the one putting surfing style into a box now?
Are you familiar with the term hypocrite?
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Roasting Kooks in crap surf
Originally posted by: JtahOriginally posted by: Roy_StuartOriginally posted by: Dunga
you dont need an olo. look on trademe for an old dunger of a single fin. cheap as chips as it seems most cats are willing to throw em away for a cool $200. still to pick up one from the akl that cost me $27. needs a few repairs but i'll be runnin with another dungers in the water. yeeewwwwww!!!!
Realise that they are useless in comparison, as are the 'modern' versions.
I roast them all the time, they are rubbish.
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So who's the one putting surfing style into a box now?
Are you familiar with the term hypocrite?
Style has nothing to do with it, did I mention style?
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No you implied it. What if they get their surf stoke from going slow?
Who are you to decide what is useless in comparison. That could well be the perfect board for the way that surfer wants to ride.
You're an interesting cat but man you can be a jerk at times. Arrogant without any good reason.
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^^ Someone needs to get laid...
snaps busy and their camping trip is another four months away...but yeah roy, they do turns, you only turn to not outrun the wave, they sometimes turn for fun and rooster tails.
Roy, do you miss the pocket?
*edited 10 Jan 2013 22:43
hey, im a little blown away by how the cut off nose job went,,, was a little funky surfing 5ft backhand waves at the glen but then went over to 3 to 4ft delaware and it went awesome,,,,having no nose was amazing off the top and thru turns,,,
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Those are people who die die. They were all my friends, and they died.
I'm only offering the fruits of my experience, feel free to ignore it.
I'm happy for people to ride equipment which doesn't work very well, it would be a nightmare if everyone was out on boards like mine.
Mals are dogs of boards though, just saying...
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you have no experience on any modern longboards
cos your mind is closed
fact is you tried once
and found it difficult with your smokers/inland surfers fitness and your reactions were too slow
so cos you cant ride em
or any board under 11ft you just write them off cos the reality is your a write-off but reality hurts your feelings eh !!
so blame the board
just saying
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
Bvllsh1t... and the question from Dungs was how long one might go not how short.
Mals don't stand a chance... just saying.
The reality is that your skills were lacking when you rode the 13 foot board as the video evidence shows so you have to put it down ever after.
As for fitness, you are a fat gut.
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in the video footage of the 13fter
i can actually turn it
and use a stance other than poo
proven a liar again roy stewart 
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
Originally posted by: trailertrash
in the video footage of the 13fter
i can actually turn it
and use a stance other than poo
proven a liar again roy stewart
Your footage is cringeworthy out of control flapping and you fall off, I turn that board and longer ones way better than you in video footage.
In short you are dreaming.
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Originally posted by: Roy_StuartOriginally posted by: trailertrash
in the video footage of the 13fter
i can actually turn it
and use a stance other than poo
proven a liar again roy stewart
Your footage is cringeworthy out of control flapping and you fall off, I turn that board and longer ones way better than you in video footage.
In short you are dreaming.
Oh dear
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Originally posted by: bionic chronic
snaps busy and their camping trip is another four months away...
You wanna come BC? It's a 3 man tent
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Roy,
A modern longboard is an A3 blank canvas, brushes and colour spectrum, in comparison one of your boards would be a flouro post it, only room for one message.
Art far outweighs function.
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Nuttin beta than sinking your teeth into a fat juicy rump
i think you guys need to ride a 5'3 in 5foot surf.
then you will really appreciate poo stance and window winding.
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Originally posted by: Nell-E
i think you guys need to ride a 5'3 in 5foot surf.
then you will really appreciate poo stance and window winding.
i did in my late teens after my bro snapped the nose off and we did a home job by rounding the nose. i had some of the best lazy fives on that board.
You seriously didn't think it would work in 5ft, hate getting the window winders
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