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worst board you ever had....
easy call for me, custom Richo 6'1 square tail had it made in Sydney, went like a dog, mind of its own, slow as, all the right ingredients were there but the board just didnt work, snapped it 1 month after i bought it and couldnt have cared less.. Sold it to a mate of mine from england who was visiting NZ and had a go and declared it the best board hed ever ridden!! Actually increased his offer by $50 when i said didnt want to sell it to him as it had been snapped and it was a dog. go figure, heres the offending shooter second from the left next to my Third best board ever the santosha 
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can't honestly say i'v ever had a crap board Mr Statik.
the first board i owned was seasons single that insurance payed for when my pushy got stolen. then my first brand new board was a natural flight? from newmarket..i didn't really know much about boards and i remember my mate slapped me when he saw it cus the rails were fat. i traded it and about 15 yrs later saw someone else riding it at the second reef west at tawhanui(sp)...but yeah, mosta the boards have gone fine for my ability.
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New 6'2 square tail flat bottom Al Byrne bought in Sydney. Bit like you stats ... had all the right dimensions to be a great board but it was slow and possibly too light. Surfed it for 6 months and only had one memorable surf on it an small Lennox head. That day it seemed to go really well ... go figure 
Traded it for a 6'1 T&C with deep straight channels that was an absolute rocket ship.
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by the way 20 years on my mate still maintains that richo was one of his best boards ever. 
fave ever boards were an all yellow pipedream 6'1" thruster with a single full bottom channel (basically a step about 3mm deep that followed the rail all the way round, dont know what the proper term was) that was just insane,
cant remember what happened to it, but it was the only board i managed 2 360's on one wave on, and my favourite board ever was a Hot buttered blue and magenta 5'10 2 1/4 fin (the trailer was too small to be half fin,) pulled off my only ever carving 360 on that one, no whitewash involved... and got my first 'looking out of the hole' (and clean exit) barrel in france at hossegor,. and a very rare break in the UK called tregardock was off its chops the whole summer I owned that board, its a bit out of the way and the sand sets up right once in a blue moon so no one hardly ever checks it and had it with a few others for weeks, 5ft pointbreak like right handers that just went for ages, lord knows what happened to that shooter ... ahh the good old days!
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A BRAND, new 6' or 5'9" N.W pintail, that thing was like riding a cheese cracker, and sneezing around it would have send it of flying , terrible, i think i caught three waves on it before i decided to trade it in again it was like tail riding a skateboard, out of controle, might have been good up to three foot max. Bad choice, traded it in on a used N.W six four rounded square tail thrusta, came 4th in the Napier regionals, waves were 6 plus solid and cold, that thing went like the clappers, f8cking great board. That was a piece of work. Many a great surfs on that one 
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by the way 20 years on my mate still maintains that richo was one of his best boards ever
haha while living in Sydney my flatmate had a 6'0 Dahlberg and even to this day he still considers one of the best boards he has ever owned. I rode it a few times and found it to be an absolute dog. Fat and slow that seemed to hate going from rail to rail. Doing a forehand cutback was a major effort. We dubbed it the Dahl-pig. Oh well, the guys a f-wit anyway so not surprising
Originally posted by: Prayforsurf
A BRAND, new 6' or 5'9" N.W pintail, that thing was like riding a cheese cracker, and sneezing around it would have send it of flying , terrible, i think i caught three waves on it before i decided to trade it in again it was like tail riding a skateboard, out of controle, might have been good up to three foot max. Bad choice, traded it in on a used N.W six four rounded square tail thrusta, came 4th in the Napier regionals, waves were 6 plus solid and cold, that thing went like the clappers, f8cking great board. That was a piece of work. Many a great surfs on that one
so it was the board that was the problem, not you getting something way to small?
stats those old grips on your boards are class
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First 2 boards I ever owned were my worst. Sold to me by a "mate" and his dodgy brother. 1st was a Nev Hines Rocketfish, the 2nd a Wayne parks twin fin.
Everything after that has gone pretty well apart from a 6'2 primal I had for a bit that was just a tad too loose for my liking.
Sold to me by a "mate" and his dodgy brother
Your 'mate' looks to be in the same category as my 'flatmate' with the Dahlpig
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Originally posted by: brighton_pumpsOriginally posted by: Prayforsurf
A BRAND, new 6' or 5'9" N.W pintail, that thing was like riding a cheese cracker, and sneezing around it would have send it of flying , terrible, i think i caught three waves on it before i decided to trade it in again it was like tail riding a skateboard, out of controle, might have been good up to three foot max. Bad choice, traded it in on a used N.W six four rounded square tail thrusta, came 4th in the Napier regionals, waves were 6 plus solid and cold, that thing went like the clappers, f8cking great board. That was a piece of work. Many a great surfs on that one
so it was the board that was the problem, not you getting something way to small?
stats those old grips on your boards are
class
Yeah i guess some one of a 4'6" stature around 4 stone mighta had a ball on it, had no idea it was going to be that loose. Made another bad choice with another board, way to fat in the tail, skid hopping side ways down the face of the wave, Bollocks man.
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never had a bad board had a few that didn't quite do it for me but they werent so much bad just not what i wanted but i tend to flick those ones on straight away and get another one
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never had a bad board
Spoken like a true retail sales guy
I've never really had a dog board but perhaps it's a bit of mind over matter. I'm a firm believer that you can get a good feel of a board before you surf it, there are some that you just look at and you know that all the elements will combine into a nice package yet on others something just won't seem right.
Maybe I just don't want to admit I've ever made a bad choice.
Come to think of it, My new wave riding machine must be not too far away now... It will be a magic board I'm sure.
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I had one mal that was just a piece of poo, turned like a slug, and would almost porpoise when you were on the nose.
also had an identical copy of one of my indo boards made in 2006 and it just wasnt the same. I ended up swapping the old board back in exchange for the brand new one
I'm a firm believer that you can get a good feel of a board before you surf it, there are some that you just look at and you know that all the elements will combine into a nice package yet on others something just won't seem right.
Maybe I just don't want to admit I've ever made a bad choice.
Good points Marko. This is why its often better to buy a board off the rack than get a custom unless the shaper knows you and your surfing ability and style very well.
yea good points Marko
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haha sorry FT brain not in gear today 
Originally posted by: Jabes
never had a bad board had a few that didn't quite do it for me but they werent so much bad just not what i wanted but i tend to flick those ones on straight away and get another one
Yes son its a brand new board, those dimples in the deck are so you can grip better.. and look!~ it comes already waxed with a free tail pad
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6'4" Quarry Beach,
as above, everything seemed to be in order, but it was a truly horrible piece of equipment, would draw the most horrible lines, and veer randomly during turns.
best:
6'2" Webber, just the perfect board
vintage 9'6" Quane, still the best lonboard I have ridden, even though it weighed as much as a small car.
I can't help wondering how many "board problems" have their origin with the rider
Originally posted by: sir fer
I can't help wondering how many "board problems" have their origin with the rider
well, I guess to some degree the worker can blame his tools, but when you ride 2 different boards of similar design, in close proximity to eachother, in similar conditions, and one rides like a filed down ironing board dragging a medium size anchor, and the other glides effortlessly, smoothly taking the rider where they wish to go...
the equipment is usally in some way, a dud.
even setting the fins slighty wrong can turn a nice board into slug.
I had a go on a 7'3 Bic minimal once at one of my fav 'rappa breaks and it floated like a cork, was slow and wasn't a keen turner.
Originally posted by: mister1
and one rides like a filed down ironing board dragging a medium size anchor
great analogy
Originally posted by: Blunt
I had a go on a 7'3 Bic minimal once at one of my fav 'rappa breaks and it floated like a cork, was slow and wasn't a keen turner.
Surfboard made by 1800's French pen company goes like a dog? No surprises there then!!
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I wonder if you can get a board shapped like a guitar.
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Originally posted by: mister1
and one rides like a filed down ironing board dragging a medium size anchor
yep , classic, ill be using that one for sure!
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Pre Thruster days when i was a grom, (79 -81?) and 5'2 to 5'10' 'disc' style twins were the standard, I did buy a 5'4" stinger single.
The guy in the shop told me it was too small for me and after 1 surf (perfect 4ft croyde and i got zero waves!) i had to go back to the shop and admit he was right.
Traded it in and walked out with a 6'8" single with wingers which was actually a great board if a bit too long but got heaps of waves, in retropect a good board for my ability back then.
Funny how all of us who have had these dog boards seem to luck into a cracker straight afterwards but it probably just seems better in comparison.
I always reckon that the best shooters are the ones your not sure about to begin with but after a bit you dial into them.
The 6'6" soul fish was a bit like that, first few surfs were so different to the 6'10" i wondered if I shouldnt just cut my losses, but love it now, ill be buried with that board
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Originally posted by: sir fer
I can't help wondering how many "board problems" have their origin with the rider
Nah I reckon once you can surf OK you know what works for you or not, and none of us are pro's that have a rack of 50 boards to pick from, budget says you have to give it a decent burl before you move it on..
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I agree. The only board I ever had one surf on and returned was a custom by Chris Lee in Napier. The board went ok but it was so far removed to what I was use to riding he shaped me another which turned out to be a really good board.
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my first board was 6ft single fin, hump deck banana style board, a 20 quid absolute POS, vile lime green deck and bottom was brown as. 
i still shudder when i think of it!
bought a new 6'5" hot buttered when they were in newmarket.
Straight out to mud bay to try it out, surf was onshore, 4ft and sh1thouse, was halfway down the hill on the way home when i thought 'stuff it, its a new board ill just go for a surf and try it out'
Turned round, suited up, paddled out, paddled for the first wave, got pitched and landed @rse first smack in the middle of the board... snapped it clean in half, 
never got to ride a wave on it, fixed it but it went like a dog, of course ill never know if it would have gone any good if it hadnt been snapped
Glen at Primal did a custom 6'9' round tail for indo for me that came off the racks on the NW motorway on the way home (undamaged) first wave i caught at keri keri on it I got a smokin little bazza, rode that board till it was literally shrivelled it was so old
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Originally posted by: Mr Statik
Funny how all of us who have had these dog boards seem to luck into a cracker straight afterwards but it probably just seems better in comparison.
Same happened here, after I ditched the dogs I got a 6'10 fresh squeezed that I surfed until it died
A 6'6" roundtailed single from Jordan and Peake in 1987. . . singles are not really Jordan's thing. I traded in my epic 6'6" Freshly squeezed pintail single ( a subtle no nose thruster planshape ) and asked Andy to copy it, instead he made a really parallel railed big roundtail, it had no drive and didn't turn well.
The other worst one was a Grey Seal 6'8" single bought new from the connexion surf shop, some Grey Seals were great and some were dogs.
I had a pretty ghastly 'Sunshine' twin in 1980 with massive double concave scoops betwen the fins and almost no rocker, it was the world's most brilliant board 0.0001 percent of the time ( i.e. I once did an amazing turn on it 
the rest of the time it was a dog )
Then there's every thruster I ever met. . . but that's operator dislike, partly anyway.
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Originally posted by: sir ferOriginally posted by: Mr Statik
Funny how all of us who have had these dog boards seem to luck into a cracker straight afterwards but it probably just seems better in comparison.
Same happened here, after I ditched the dogs I got a 6'10 fresh squeezed that I surfed until it died
Roly is a good shaper, he actually has some grey matter between his ears.
Mind you, he made me one of the other worst boards ever a 7'4" kevlar 'longboard' with a no nose, James burton had been surfing Piha in 1984 with these wide tailed no nose 9 and 10 foot thrusters, in retrospect it looked like ungainly hard work but it was a bit of craze for a while and Roly suggested a shorter version, what an absolute Dog it turned out to be and i had to wait many weeks for it as Andy B-arts didn't want to glass it due to the kevlar being unsandable. Eventually he did it by casing it in resin about a foot thick so he didn't have to touch the cloth.
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if you think its the board its more likely you thats bad
Never riden a sh1t board just ones that took a while to get used to. Though spud lent me a board that was rather strange to ride even made a crazy wizzing sound as i went along the wave haha.
If that's true it's also true that if you think that you are good it's most likely just the board. . . Slater's a prime example
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who knew roy was such a conventionalist back in the day?? ya learn something new every day.
How did you get into the whole 'wooden board / tunnel fin /thinking outside the square' thing roy?
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I don't think I've ever had a bad board persay - generally speaking they have all had there day. A good allrounder is a good find though - if you are lucky to have a quiver, you'll no doubt prefer certain boards depending on conditions.
A few years ago i had a custom 6 3 made in Durban and I never really took to it. Couple of years down the line and its one of my fav ever boards. I don't know what it was initially, it was the right size and all but I guess i just needed to get to know it a bit. If I was asked 2 years ago about my worst board, it would have won the award.
Last year I bought an epoxy fish and got a barrel on my first wave on it...was I happy with it?
A guy I met once told me he had this sh1tehouse board so he surfed it with utter ill regard to rocks and death closeouts. He was practically trying to break it to justify buying a replacement!
Originally posted by: Mr Statik
who knew roy was such a conventionalist back in the day?? ya learn something new every day.
How did you get into the whole 'wooden board / tunnel fin /thinking outside the square' thing roy?
One thought leads to another Mr statik
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I'm with Jabes.... never had a "bad" board. Every board has its own character... every board has its day. Some have fewer days and rougher characters, but all have brought me joy.
so now your trying to make me into some sort of emotional yank?
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Originally posted by: Blunt
I had a go on a 7'3 Bic minimal once at one of my fav 'rappa breaks and it floated like a cork, was slow and wasn't a keen turner.
Good friend of mine was over from Sydney a while back and a mate had lent him probably the identical board to this and we went out of a few waves at TeArai, it was a nice wee swell but he was struggling on the bic. I felt a bit sorry for him after a bit so I graciously offered to let him catch a few waves on my board.
An hour and a half later he reluctantly gave my board back after I chased him all over the lineup with a detached leggie begging him to take the piece of crap back. It was a seriously horrible board. I can't believe they actually sell any.
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Originally posted by: TheRealGroovn
I'm with Jabes.... never had a "bad" board. Every board has its own character... every board has its day. Some have fewer days and rougher characters, but all have brought me joy.
Hippy
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for all the flak that factory in thailand and surftech get, theres dirty old Bic, quietly signing up good surfers like Nat young, Peter pan and gerard dabaddie to make truly horrible dungers.
Maybe they slip under the radar because Surftech is a genuine threat and Bic? Well everybody knows they are entry level junk.
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me old mate Ju (RIP) once said, "if a board feels right and you rip on it from the very beginning your not gonna learn anything" and theres definitely something in that, the counter to that was Glen at Primal who on hearing this nugget of wisdom said "yeah... but its a pretty good indication its a good board"
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tis not the board its THE RIDER
no there are bad boards out there i fixed one worst board ive ever seen straight line up near the nose as opposed to the other side one rail got mysteriously fat in the middle the board back to normal, fins way to close together super heavy yet had a ton of holes thru it.
It was a bad board but id say you would have to be a bit stupid to have bought it or have no idea about how boards should look
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Originally posted by: bnewby
tis not the board its THE RIDER
Yes of course, every board is a potential magic stick waiting for the right jockey....
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Originally posted by: TheRealGroovn
I'm with Jabes.... never had a "bad" board. Every board has its own character... every board has its day. Some have fewer days and rougher characters, but all have brought me joy.
Except the barron.
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hah the board i fixed lookd mighty simular to that stats not the tail on mine was more of an enigma
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i reckon most boards work...just some work better.
i'd give that stick a go Stats..just for the hell of it.
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Originally posted by: marko sharkoOriginally posted by: TheRealGroovn
I'm with Jabes.... never had a "bad" board. Every board has its own character... every board has its day. Some have fewer days and rougher characters, but all have brought me joy.
Except the barron.
nope. even the barron. I have a great photo of me in a Hickory barrel on that board...
it was fantastic until I somehow went up to 93kg. Now it's hopeless.....
Originally posted by: Mr Statikjust got a second hand board always had boards full boxy rails got my first low rail board floats me good but paddling into waves is weird kinda missing alota waves but only 3rd surf on it they say give a board 8 surfs and see how it goes?or is it just the mind
easy call for me, custom Richo 6'1 square tail had it made in Sydney, went like a dog, mind of its own, slow as, all the right ingredients were there but the board just didnt work, snapped it 1 month after i bought it and couldnt have cared less.. Sold it to a mate of mine from england who was visiting NZ and had a go and declared it the best board hed ever ridden!! Actually increased his offer by $50 when i said didnt want to sell it to him as it had been snapped and it was a dog. go figure, heres the offending shooter second from the left next to my Third best board ever the santosha
Originally posted by: Mr Statikcool good advice im on 3rd surf with my low rails is it true give it 8 surfs then you know its for you does my head in at moOriginally posted by: sir fer
I can't help wondering how many "board problems" have their origin with the rider
Nah I reckon once you can surf OK you know what works for you or not, and none of us are pro's that have a rack of 50 boards to pick from, budget says you have to give it a decent burl before you move it on..
Doubt Statik doesn't know anything he's all talk.
The moment you pick a board up and feel it you know. Surfing it just proves you were right.
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Originally posted by: The Bosstrue boss hey would you buy a board of trademe without feeling it first and looking at it?
Doubt Statik doesn't know anything he's all talk.
The moment you pick a board up and feel it you know. Surfing it just proves you were right.
Originally posted by: The Bosswhat ive seen on trade me the boss they give the basic dims but never what type of rail eg,low rail or full boxy in stuff and a photo never the real feel
Doubt Statik doesn't know anything he's all talk.
The moment you pick a board up and feel it you know. Surfing it just proves you were right.
i prefer lower rails i have no idea why as being abit of a fatty fully should suit me more but full rails never seem to feel as good./
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I dont think I've ever had a complete pig... I have a bit of a quiver so i rotate boards, but I definitely have my main shorty which I ride most frequently, then I snap it or something, get a new board and it takes me a while to get used to it, then it's great.
I snapped my fav 6'0 this year at Uluwatu. I was going to get rid of it but ended up repairing it - incredibly cheap. Anyway, the board was sick post-repair. More weight in the nose made drops better, although, it was slightly more sluggish.
Who's had a board which has improved after being snapped?
i had an old fresh squessed gun that snapped 4-5 times and still went great was pretty much just my whatipu board for years
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