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nz made?
do you buy a new board off your local shaper or from sum other nz shaper,or sum mass made overseas pop out boards,
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My quiver in use at the mo.
1)local shaper (Mickey T, bought new)
2)NZ legend shaper (roger hall, not new)
3)local shaper , second hand (bear)
4)West Coast shaper, legend del surfboards
5)back yard shaper. NZ made
No imports. No mass production cr@p
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Originally posted by: chuxcool do you think chux our nz shapers can compete against cheap pop out boards from overseas,mind you the aussie shapers are digging here in nz but bout same price as nz shapers
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My quiver in use at the mo.
1)local shaper (Mickey T, bought new)
2)NZ legend shaper (roger hall, not new)
3)local shaper , second hand (bear)
4)West Coast shaper, legend del surfboards
5)back yard shaper. NZ made
No imports. No mass production cr@cool chux do you thinkour shapers in nz are going to struggle in the future with cheaper imports ok sum of the aussie brands a darn dare that enter the nz market,
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No imports. No mass production cr@p
I guess you are this careful with all your purchases then, where do your shoes come from?
Anyway my nearest "local" shaper is about 1000km away I have 2 boards 1 made in Thailand, one made in China, the chinese one is sweet, solid PU lite and durable the thai one less so.
it will be a sad day if nz shapers go under because of cost, but they will have to brand on quality and preformance
Are there any shoes made in NZ? Probably not. I surf local boards made for local conditions. I have tried pop outs. Glass jobs are sh!t ask any repairer.
Have tried epoxy (too corky) id rather support local craftsmanship and economy
Oh hang on.....i do own raglan leather jandels and boots
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Originally posted by: Pena
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No imports. No mass production cr@p
I guess you are this careful with all your purchases then, where do your shoes come from?
Anyway my nearest "local" shaper is about 1000km away I have 2 boards 1 made in Thailand, one made in China, the chinese one is sweet, solid PU lite and durable the thai one less so.i know what you mean pena my wage makes me buy cheap warehouse type of clothes but in those savings i buy surfboards off my local shaper,ok i could buy cheaper board but i can talk and tweek my shaper in to make my type of board with his knowledge but at a cost,
Originally posted by: chux
Are there any shoes made in NZ? Probably not. I surf local boards made for local conditions. I have tried pop outs. Glass jobs are sh!t ask any repairer.
Have tried epoxy (too corky) id rather support local craftsmanship and economy
Oh hang on.....i do own raglan leather jandels and boots
BATA BOOT'S
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Originally posted by: chuxyou are rite chux and pena i bag import boards to my local shaper as i wear import clothes as they are cheap but i do go to my local shaper,as i buy a board off him to pay his family to live sorta thing
Are there any shoes made in NZ? Probably not. I surf local boards made for local conditions. I have tried pop outs. Glass jobs are sh!t ask any repairer.
Have tried epoxy (too corky) id rather support local craftsmanship and economy
Oh hang on.....i do own raglan leather jandels and boots
yep personal speaking with the shaper is the way to go but I need boards and have been pleasently surprised with the Chinese one I have got the glass job is actually good, the glass job on the thai one is sh^t
I wouldn't be seen on a pop out at a local now days. Its shameful to be honest
Be proud of where U are from and great board from the local reinforces that.
This is my opinion. No doubt pop out buyers will bring hate. They are angry because they know in right
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Originally posted by: Pena
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No imports. No mass production cr@p
I guess you are this careful with all your purchases then, where do your shoes come from?
Anyway my nearest "local" shaper is about 1000km away I have 2 boards 1 made in Thailand, one made in China, the chinese one is sweet, solid PU lite and durable the thai one less so.
Ha and here I was thinking this thread was NZ made.Your two boards dont count making you a none KIWI supporter.Stay away too if you want,leaves more waves for us loyal KIWI surfers.lol
That should get them going.lol
Originally posted by: Penahow long they last with the glass n stuff to what like a nz board type thing, hope it aint like a how long type of string thing.
yep personal speaking with the shaper is the way to go but I need boards and have been pleasently surprised with the Chinese one I have got the glass job is actually good, the glass job on the thai one is sh^t
Originally posted by: chuxim from gutless chch but buy barron boards and he makes good boards in our gutliss s#itt
I wouldn't be seen on a pop out at a local now days. Its shameful to be honest
Be proud of where U are from and great board from the local reinforces that.
This is my opinion. No doubt pop out buyers will bring hate. They are angry because they know in right
Barron is a good shaper - I've had 4 boards from him. If you haven't already, have a crack on a hog. Epic boards.
3 boards - 2 X nz shapers Razor & JDub, 1 X longboard pop out i guess (it's hard to find out about it) all boards go great, but defo fav is the Razor. Nick'll be making my next one...brought the popout cos it was realtively cheap for a quality - ish longboard at 1k but f u c k paying 1400 for a surftech or a mctavish log out of a machine. Everyboard from this point on will be nz made
oh and i was drunk when i brought the longboard on an impulse
so it don't count
Ive got slightly different from the options
2x aussie shaper made board and another on its way
1x jdub local shaped
1x home made
recent sales are 1x nz and 1x oz
tho the fact all our glass and resin and blanks are also imported maybe nz finished is a better turn of phrase?
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Plenty of resin is made in NZ.
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Originally posted by: Roy_Stuart
Plenty of resin is made in NZ.
Im sorry Roy the use of the word all was remiss of me. you are correct there is plenty of resin made here how ever it would seem majority that i know up here are using Australian or American resin.
tho as i earlier said i deeply apologies for the stress and emotional turmoil my comment caused.
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I dont think you mean that apology Jabes....
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Originally posted by: JabesOriginally posted by: Roy_Stuart
Plenty of resin is made in NZ.
Im sorry Roy the use of the word all was remiss of me. you are correct there is plenty of resin made here how ever it would seem majority that i know up here are using Australian or American resin.
tho as i earlier said i deeply apologies for the stress and emotional turmoil my comment caused.
You mistake me for someone who gives a f*ck about what you say... you are a brainwashed shop wallah of no account, I'm just correcting the misinformation.
Basically the shop types like to find ways to blur the distinction between NZ made and imported so that they can sell more pop outs.
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In the same vein the pro NZ made argument is attacked by people saying " but where was your computer made? ... your car? etc etc..."
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2020 prefers a handmade product all day everyday...whether local or from offshore- something thats been made with some care and attention, and bit of love as well.
My current board was made by a local shaper, sadly it was perfectly made to my exact requirements- rather than taking the good advice of the shaper- the result is a beautifully crafted board, which has the tempermantent of an Italian wife- often its sweet spot is best located in the shed...I tell this tale as a warning to others..
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roy you are so old yet so full of angst and hate. how sad you are. a elderly trying to rark is just a bad look.
you think someone his age would be more secure in him self
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also i would put forth Roy when was the last time you stepped foot in a surf shop as very few use pop outs these days our biggest trade with boards is custom orders from various shapers.
on another note are you heading to raglan this weekend its looking like it could be good
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Fins by beemertrash
Board by local Garage shaper
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Is that a cut down longboard? Could be fun.
Also hows Phoam these days? Haven't seen anything form her for a while.
thats loots cool as sh+t beemer...how does she run- nice leggie too
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that looks interesting beemer
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roy is just so upset at jabes it is hard case. beemer, you ride those? I like your open mind.
Originally posted by: Jabes
you think someone his age would be more secure in him self
You suggest emotional content where there is none.
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Originally posted by: Jabes
also i would put forth Roy when was the last time you stepped foot in a surf shop as very few use pop outs these days
Bollocks.
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Originally posted by: Roy_StuartOriginally posted by: Jabes
you think someone his age would be more secure in him self
You suggest emotional content where there is none.
are you saying you are a robot or a corpse? That is what you are suggesting. You use pompous lines to mask your lower class stature, it is classic.
Originally posted by: bionic chronicOriginally posted by: Roy_StuartOriginally posted by: Jabes
you think someone his age would be more secure in him self
You suggest emotional content where there is none.
are you saying you are a robot or a corpse? That is what you are suggesting. You use pompous lines to mask your lower class stature, it is classic.
No you'er the classic brother,keep it up because we love you for it.lol
Originally posted by: Beemertrash
Fins by beemertrash
Board by local Garage shaper
What's the wood,mop head?
Originally posted by: Roy_StuartOriginally posted by: Jabes
also i would put forth Roy when was the last time you stepped foot in a surf shop as very few use pop outs these days
Bollocks.
you seemed to have missed the question - when was the last time you were in a surf shop Roy?
Also we all know your next move will be to try define pop out in some archaic manner that it used to be used in but try suprise the group.
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Originally posted by: Jabes
also i would put forth Roy when was the last time you stepped foot in a surf shop as very few use pop outs these days our biggest trade with boards is custom orders from various shapers.
on another note are you heading to raglan this weekend its looking like it could be good
... well that maybe the case in your shop Jabes- but many are packed full of them- I'm thinking of a few north shore "surf" shops in particular which shall remain nameless (...as they are clueless).
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Originally posted by: mrbrownstone
do you buy a new board off your local shaper or from sum other nz shaper,or sum mass made overseas pop out boards,
I have a JDub (NZ local) short board and a T&C pop out mal. I stashed 2 others in CA and HI, both Alan Uehara's (HI local). Thinking back, most of my boards have been locally made. I reckon the shaper who surfs where I do knows best.
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roy didnt miss the question jabes. he dismissed it as irrelevant and ignored it.
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ah you see but it is relevant if i say all people from north Taranaki are in bred but haven't actually been to the naki in 20 years. Then this would suggest i have limited recent knowledge in this area so would make my opinion less valid
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...ahh careful there Jabes becuase that would suggest that something cannot be correct, unless you have actually seen it for yourself.
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something to mention when (not) buying pop outs....they may look as if they have fcs fins and the shop may well say they are fcs fins but when you lose a fin and try to replace it with a fcs fin and you find out it doesn't fit you discover forgery fcs fins and boxes.....very annoying...
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The tuflight plug's are wider then other plugs too.The fins tabs are thicker then other's making some fins lose fitting.
you seemed to have missed the question - when was the last time you were in a surf shop Roy?
It's a stupid question, it doesn't require an answer.
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Originally posted by: Jabes
ah you see but it is relevant if i say all people from north Taranaki are in bred but haven't actually been to the naki in 20 years. Then this would suggest i have limited recent knowledge in this area so would make my opinion less valid
So you think that going to Taranaki will tell you whether or not people are in bred?
Every time you hit the keyboard you dig a deeper hole for yourself.
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NZ made?
popouts [mountsurfshop.co.nz]
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Originally posted by: Stormsurfboardfins
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The tuflight plug's are wider then other plugs too.The fins tabs are thicker then other's making some fins lose fitting.
interesting! i assume the fins on tufflites are fcs's or are they 'replicas' hence the ill fitting? the hassles i've had with compatability and fin box size differences for both fcs and futures (dont get me started on the front / rear futures fin box depth difference aaarrrggghhh) I'm getting glass - ons next board...
Originally posted by: GrindmasterV2Originally posted by: Stormsurfboardfins
*edited 05 Oct 2012 18:38
The tuflight plug's are wider then other plugs too.The fins tabs are thicker then other's making some fins lose fitting.
interesting! i assume the fins on tufflites are fcs's or are they 'replicas' hence the ill fitting? the hassles i've had with compatability and fin box size differences for both fcs and futures (dont get me started on the front / rear futures fin box depth difference aaarrrggghhh) I'm getting glass - ons next board...
Yes there is a difference in the thickness of futures fins too.As for the back and side boxes being different Yes same thing.
rags is ugly, east is a ripple
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You could get some Kiwi made fins for your next board Grind.
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custom made ones too
Originally posted by: chux
rags is ugly
That's the truth.
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Was at my local yesterday and saw a guy walking past with a Bear (all i saw was the logo from a distance) so I asked if it was one of Mickeys. He looked at me quizzicly like he had no idea what I was talking about and said,,"it's a bear" it was one of those surftech / tufflite / whatever pop outs. The guy, nice as he was, had no idea who Mickey was. I think the biggest issue is the surfboard consumers lack of knowledge of the local shaper scene, or they are of the type / generation who don't even care. It's a tough call, I do my best to namedrop local shapers but a lot of the buyers go with the hype i guess or buy popouts second hand. It's rare to see NZ shapes in the second hand racks, I wonder why? Maybe cos the owners are reluctant to sell em cos they are too good ? I reckon Hayden and Cain are making a good crack at fighting the tidal wave, making heaps of performance shortboards and getting em in the shops. Retailers also are a bit to blame, but must be hard for them when the groms and old farts mostly consitently bypass local made quality and go for the gsi b o l l o c k s or whatever big brand is currently trendy..
but maybe its different in core towns like NP or Gisborne...are there a lot of surfers riding local boards there? it's hard to tell, in akers and wellers everbodys on something different, but in smaller towns it might be different. just to name drop once more, last time i was at omaha i saw heaps of razors, and nicks a local...